
will be attending PTD assessment this ogos. serious blank gila, dunno what need to be read, what need to be done. ada sesapa MCOBs dalam service PTD tak? nak gather infos and tips for it.
also, any hints on what i will be experiencing this coming saturday. trying my luck with keje gomen :)
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zaha,
good luck with the exam. rasanya ada among the Arietans yang attended PTD program kan guys? one of our cousins pun tengah buat this program.. will try to ask her later..
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Well Zaha dear,
Err the truth is I went for the test like when I was pregnant and wasn't keen at all to do it cause I was already eyeing for my current job and guess what..I flunk the exam..hehe..
Exam tu memang susah gila, to my standard, la..all sorts of questions dari pagi sampai petang (and oh how much I hate exams)!! I just couldn't wait for it to end.
A lot of general questions, from football to geography, to current events, economics, yada yada yada...and then essay in malay and english..ahh..not to mention math questions too.. I belasah je most of my objective questions :wink:
All the best dear!
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Passed the exam, failed the interview. Good luck dude.
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thanks a lot, keeping my fingers crossed now. tunggu dan lihat je la soklan camne nak kuar nanti.
test, assessment, interview, diploma course then only will be confirmed in position. uii, gila! :?
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Ko test kat mana Zaha? Ada somebody I know going to take it in ESSET Kajang.
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kat dewan B UIA gombak, dekat dengan umah dah tu. urghh, one whole day lak tu. mesti kong gila after that!
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took (and failed) the exam last July.
There are 5 papers, and I think only the first je yang menyusahkan hidup sikit. Pengetahuan am kena power. and not just current issue, you have to know govt. structure, bidang kuasa (something regarding state n federal). The IQ test (2nd or 3rd, tak ingat) senang, tapi soalan dia banyak, tak sempat nak siap dalam masa yg dia bagi tu. semua org yang aku tanya cakap tak sempat siap. test yg lain2 tu shouldn't be a problem
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Wah ramai jugak yang dah amik PTD test apparently? I guess somewhere in life, one was thinking of joining the PTD, like 2-3 of my batchmates. Macam si Zuhairi tu, was earning really well at HSBC, now in PTD, Shihabudin was ex Telekom, also now safely in PTD. ANother friend, Paooz joined PTD straight away after college, he must be eyeing for it long time ago.
And a fellow Petronas Gas engineer in my dept, baru aje quit to join PTD, I barely know him. So Zaha, what's so special about PTD? HEHE
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the chances of working abroad and amongst the highest paid government servant? eheheheh.....
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many local companies also have chances to send abroad. frankly when i hear people joining PTD, all that come across my mind is that oversea assignment. Rwanda pun oversea jugak tau.
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lagi satu, all those government servant's benefits laa...pension do come in handy what :lol:
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Good luck...blh jadi ambassador...lepas tu org blh panggil YM without getting into politic....
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Well Zaha dear, apparently, PTD officers are the creme de la creme of the govt service. And they are known to be 'eksyen' sikit la. However yes, the benefits and pension will come in handy and chances are you will be posted abroad. So let's hope that Zaha eventually dapat pi Geneva and work closely with the UN ;)
Anyways, just so you know Zaha, working for the statutory body like in my case, our starting pay is still higher than even the PTDs tapi you guys the PTDs naik cepat. So let's hope you get to work with Wisma Putra to start off with ;)
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aiya, test pun belum pegi lagi ni :roll: taknak berangan dulu, lepaskan test tu baru boleh nak pikir apa yang patut :)
anyway, what to wear ah? my friend said pakai je apa-apa asalkan kemas. ye eh?
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u can wear ur pants and shirt... like normal working days.. it think much more presentable zaha.. :wink:
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PTD people always look down on JPA and Pengkhususan (read: Govt Engineers) people. That's a fact I know.
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PTD kena attend induksi 6 bulan woooo...kena induksi 3 minggu pun pening....boring.....rasa masa kat Prep School lak bila kena induksi tapi dah berjanggut la...
yg pening tu kena pergi bina semangat...bagi sesaper yg outdoor type seronok ler...yg tak tahan tu dengar lecture from 8am-10pm pasal perlembagaan...torture woo...
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sure at the time i'm typing Zaha dah masuk exam hall.. tengah dok tulis/shade nama atas exam paper kot :)
just hope he'll do his BEST :D
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Yup, all the very best to him... i'm sure he can do well!
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tehehehe, thanks to all well wishers. i think i've done my best, at least i know i'ce did my best in the test hall last weekend. ramai jugak yang attend the test, even some pakcik and makcik. met a senior at university, coming for his 3rd ptd test....walawei, cuak gak ni.
section A was like, "err, why i never know this fact?" the general knowledge was very the general. even naim ahmad was included - who is he btw? the 14 years old kid who got a contract from an english football club isn't he?
section B, "wish there were more time...."
section C, D and E was quite ok. well, hafta wait for another one month and a half for the results to come out. finger crossed :roll:
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zaha,
dun forget to inform us when the result's out ok?
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haha, sapa naim ahmad ah? see? if i took it, mesti fail jugak. zaha, satang jaya berhad dah tau ke your intention (if berjaya) to join PTD ni? mana la tau, deorang nak hantar utk project baru kat Buenos Aires ke in March, tup tup, you already gave your resignation letter.
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Zaha,
Result PTD exam dah keluar kat web. Ko dah check belum? Pass ke idak? Kalau pass, boleh belanja. :)
Yang mengharap,
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tehehehe, i've checked it already. last week lagi dah tau, saje je duk diam2 :P
kalau dapat posting ke kementerian hal ehwal dalam negeri baru boleh nak belanje ke apa. call letter assessment kat INTAN pun belum dapat lagi nih... :roll:
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Pass la tu. Congrats bro. Way to go. We'll be rooting for you.
Why only Home Affairs? Other ministry kenapa?
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ehehee, reason poyo gell :P
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Congratulations Zahark!
My PTD friend, now in Wisma Putra told me yang the INTAN training tu pretty inneresting - you get to be an "anak angkat" Bomba or police or something. Cool!
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Zaha,
CONGRATS for passing the exam with flying colors :D kira OK jugak la you didn't take up the other job offer that day kan? :wink:
anyways, tak kira you dapat posting kat mana later tapi mesti belanja we all jugak :) bukan senang nak jadi the minority 10% yang successful, out of that 3,000 ppl apply each time kan.. kan.. kan..
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insyaAllah, ni semua berkat doa member-member gak kan :wink:
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CONGRATS BRO'! 8)
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Well, Zahack, I am happy for you though my wish is rather later..considering the fact that I have been long gone for a bit..
This is a prove that you are wayyyyyy smarter than I am as I failed the exam the first time around..hehehe but I am definitely happy where I am now..Alhamdulillah..
Congrats again!
Have fun and have a good journey in your new job...may it take you far :)
E.
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eh eh.... :|
i baru pass test je, belum dapat post lagi laa. before semua missunderstood, better clarify :)
i checked on the website and it told me that i passed, i still haven't received the letter to go for assessment in INTAN yet. yang amik exam berpuluh ribu, yang pass beribu, yang nak dipanggil assessment beratus, yang dapat interview berpuluh dan yang dapat offer keje berbelas. it's still a long wayyyyyyyy to go.... :wink:
so, i baru lepas 1st stage, 2nd stage belum confirm lagi :roll:
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takpe, first stage pun dah boleh celebrate. the only thing is that the celebrations get bigger with each passing stage.
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Haa.. bila nak celebrate tu zaha? Nak join, nak join bleh tak?
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Joining the fray to congratulate you jugaklah Zaha. Way to go Bro!
CK & F
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so zahack, saham2 anda kat satang jaya tu kena kasik balik ke? ntah2 satang mintak balik the 30 lot at RM1.00, ie harga asal, hehehehehe
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erk, just checked the website...dapat assessment center kat intura....erk, kat sungai petani? hmm, ada sesapa leh bagi cadangan camne nak tukar centre? ke x boleh?
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Zaha,
bila kena pegi report for assessment? if lambat lagi maybe can try this trick.. which i don't think it's going to work well tho :lol: "tuan, saya baru je kawin and my wife is pregnant and i can't leave her as she's having bad morning sickness but neither my mom or my mother-in-law can help look after her when i'm away so please put me in assessment centre near to her" :lol:
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the assessment starts on 22nd april (friday). i think it will lasts the whole weekend (3 days). hmm, reason tu macam boleh guna. tapi tak sure nak try ke tidak. 2 benda je yang cam tak best sikit, one is the centre is "entah tak tahu kat mana" and the other one is two of my batchmates are getting married on that particular weekend....
:? :? :?
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alahai Zaha.. 3 hari je kira OK la kot :) ingatkan 3 bulan kena duduk kat intura tu.. anyhow, your batchmates tu buat wedding kat mana? memang you plan nak pegi la tu eh?
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one in shah alam, one in bangi. my place supposed to be rendezvous point before going to the kenduri kat shah alam tu since seksyen sebelah-sebelah je. nampak gaya kena skip lah... :?
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Zaha,
everything happened for a reason.. so don't be sad. may be you can go visit them before you go to Kuala Ketil, Sg Petani tu so that they'll remember later by saying "..at least Zaha datang jumpa aku before dia pegi assessment.."
Chin up bro :)
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Zaha, all the best!
Yang kenduri member ko tu biar kita orang yang pegi makan. ;)
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well, dah check through the list. got a few friends in there. 5 of them satu centre with me in sungai petani, the same date. so, not bad ah...ada kaki, semua jadi! :lol:
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see Zaha.. it's not THAT bad after all :D :wink:
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not only that, boleh singgah kuala and get some pau as well. argh, teringat egg on toast pulak.
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5 of them? So, it won't feel like an assessment to you after all 8)
I wasn't sure whether I could pass the PTD exam as I've never experienced such fun merapu in examinations. Thank God, I'm lucky enough to get through.
Mine is in IKWAS, Kluang. Starting 29/4. Not really worried about the public speaking/group discussion parts as I'm more concerned of the 800-m/2.4km running test. I'm a brisk-walking person... Never really jogged :? ... Anybody jogs regularly here? Wanna share tips to avoid being pancit?
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took the test in KL but got the assessment centre in SP...so jauh! well, i guess i can menyelam sambil minum air. it has been awhile since my last visit there.
my friend said that the the ones who did not pass the time limit were the ones who 'did not' run. so, i'm guessing the time limit will be really lenient to some. i guess you can start by jogging slowly bit by bit from now, 29th april is still a long way :wink:
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2.4km in how many minutes? i remember having to do that distance under 12 minutes. unfortunately, i was over by 30 seconds. second time around, managed to do it 30 seconds before time.
i once read that a good way to travel long distances as quickly as possible is to sprint a hundred yards, then walk the next hundred yards. repeat as necessary. caveat: i read this in a fantasy novel hehe. boleh pakai? belum cuba, belum tahu!
on a more serious note, whenever i have to run long distances, it's always the mind that stops you from reaching the endpoint. i try to cajole myself into at least running just a little bit more, then a little bit more, then a little bit more... bila betul betul dah tak larat tu, i'd stop and take a brisk walk. however, you'd feel like brisk walking all the way pulak lepas tu. so, again, you'll have to convince yourself.
by the way, i'm not a regular jogger at all, because i hate running. masa sukan tara dulu, rarely got points from the track events hahahaha. harap field events je nak cover balik, especially the long jump yang boleh senang senang dapat high.
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it will be 2.4km under 12 minutes. checked and verified :wink:
ajak (like you will ever read this in time)...see you there...ahaha!
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waaa.. say you can make the first 800m in 5 minutes (that's my average speed these days).. you only had 9 minutes for the next 1600m. but 'impossible' is just an opinion.
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what i am going to do after work today is to measure a 2.4km course around my house (using the car odometer) and then try to jog the distance to get the hang of it before pursuing a time-trial. a three days crash course boleh sukses tak cikun? (knowing you were the great long distance athlete back then)...
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well, just imagine that there's a hot babe spread naked at the finish line, waiting for you.
or replace the hot babe with a hot young boy if you swing that way.
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Hehe.. hot babe.. sounds nice! :wink:
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zaha,
i must say that was pretty far fetched. i was never a long distance runner. however, a 3-days crash course would be okay i guess. you can get the stamina, but not the speed. like kichi mentioned earlier, 'it's all in your mind'
or try modak's theory. worked every time for me!
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cikun: the hot babe or the young boy theory?
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erk..
now and then, it has always been hot babes for me! *cough! cough!
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Amboi cikun.. anyway bila u free eh? Bila nak pisang salai you tu?
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sheryl,
nak soh turun jb, susah la jugak. maybe masa wedding budak batch i buleh la kot. else kalau u turun TT kat kl, ok la.
zaha,
Ajak98 pun amik ptd jugak ke? dasat.. dasat.. sungguh tak ku sangka!
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Cikun,
Insyallah next motn i kena pi course kat Key Ell lagi.. sure thing boleh TT with the rest of the fellas too.. hehe.. itupun kalau ada yg sudi nak pi meminum ngan i laa.. :wink:
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wooo, 2.4km is like ages to finish man....still didn't get the 12 minutes mark. tomorrow perhaps.... :roll:
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gotta RUN for 2.4 km? I've practised for 800m, without recording the time and now, it's 2.4 km? My friends (who got the job) told that they didn't even run! Heh... but, as long as it's good for health, i'm game to try.
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Zaha,
6 laps of 400 meters at 12 mins means you gotta run average 2 mins per lap.
If an athlete can run 400 m at sub 45 secs then you have plenty of time to spare. :-)
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sub 45 secs is already Malaysia punya record time kut.
Ask Cikun about the timing, he used to be (and probably still is) a great 400m runner.
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wahahaha.. that was a long time ago, bro. our batch was blessed with a few 400m runners, remember the 1996 4x400m F5 inter-house? i never witnessed such tight-gapped 400m relay... even interschool level. each lap, every other house took the lead.
ok back to ptd. in such long distance run, you may want to keep to your average pace. at the last 100m (or more), sprint all the way. that might work.
like i said earlier, i'm no long distance runner.
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i need to achieve 3.33333 meters per minute in order to achieve the 12 minutes mark. never a long distance runner back in koleq days (maybe scoring silver for 400m during form 2), i was more to short distance sprints during form 5. ahahah, imagine the boy who didn't even make it to the 8x100m relay teams either in form 1 or form 2 bagged silver for 200m sprint during form 5 and helped the house win gold for 4x100m. ahaha, those days!
back to the 2.4km jog/run. by the time i reached 1km mark, i am semput already. ahaha, kena cut down ciggies intake before assessment ni :roll:
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perhaps you should take more ciggies... hehehe.
you're on a crash-course, don't pamper yourself. push harder! BAWAH LAGI! BAWAH LAGI!!
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3.33333 meters per minute? sure not? sounds implausible la. but i do remember breaking it down to 2 minutes per lap. nampak macam senang bila dah break it down that way, tapi still susah! nevertheless, as bad as i am with stamina, on the first try, i went only 30 seconds over the mark. didn't even practice for it. second time around (nak puaskan hati je la), dapat shave off a minute. so, it should be okay for you. i did stop quite a few times hehe, tapi brisk walk la masa stop tu.
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my mistake....it should be 3.333333333 (i wonder how long it will goes) meters per second....ehehehe
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zaha,
in your hockey days, that shouldn't be a problem rite? rain or shine.
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during my hockey days...hmmm, cross country dapat 3rd...achievements tu...ahahah! :lol:
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wah, mimpilah kalau aku nak dpt 3rd. pernah sekali tu man-man aje sampai garisan penamat, terus dia tiup wisel, phewww, that was close! salah strategy, gatal2 pegi makan meehoon kat dining hall sebelum cross country.
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packing! esok nak gerak dah, singgah kuala for some pau's on the way there and back..yeah!
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good luck, man! jgn pancit ha?
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Good eat the pau before running or even better put it at the finishing line, kalau lambat orang lain dah kebas..... motivate you to finish early :)
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Good luck Zaha. Run like the wind....hehe.
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uhuh, now tengah prepare for the pengucapan umum and public speaking text. dlm comp lab, curik2 jap masuk forum :P
going to lunch, after that at 2.30 pengucapan awam. petang lari 2.4km! all in all, best gak la benda ni :)
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Budak koleq...sure bole, speret! Speret! Kalah menang lain ceriter.
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Selesai :D
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sah?
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leks laa kichi...baru assessment...there'll be an interview if you passed the assessment. by then only you'll become one but to be confirmed into the position, you have to go to a 6 months diploma pengurusan awam course in INTAN bukit kiara. get the diploma, get confirmed, take the PTK exams, climb up all the way until you reach the JUSA status or 'tahap dewa-dewa' in the civil service as what they call it :D
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ish, tak payah tunggu sampai tahap tahap tu. everyone, zaha will be buying us a round of teh tarik each when he gets back.
this weekend preferably.
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ala Kichi.. Zaha tu malu nak keluar jumpa we all yang lain-lain than you all [the MCOBs] yang dia kenal.. tu la pasal belum belanja kita-kita ni tehtarik lagi, hehehe..
zaha, jangan marah.. tak habis ngusik you je :) anyways, CONGRATS for the recent achievement.. and good luck for the coming ones :D
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zaha, how was the 2.4 km run?
rose, hope it's not just teh tarik if zaha decides to belanja :D
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Aishah,
well.. kalau Zaha nak belanja.. kita pekena dia cukup-cukup :lol: *kiddin*
anyways, how's yours? hope you did well too :) anyhow, CONGRATS to you too.. at least for making it this far. do tell eh..
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Thank you Rose. Perhaps Zaha and I could make a 'kenduri doa selamat'- I belanja teh tarik and Zaha belanja makan-makan :D Heheh. (Words are prayers :wink: ).
Mine's during the coming weekends. Alahai. Pancit lagi in all things. In need of more reading and running :oops:
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Aishah,
do your best :) nanti boleh la you and Zaha combine the kenduri :D [eh.. memandai je kita ni.. Zaha tak cakap apa pun, hehehe]
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ok...sesi bercerita (kena buat 2 part ni - to maximize the 75 points). right kichi?
started off the journey on thursday evening around 5 pm (there goes the pau). naik dengan another fellow MCOB 98, singgah jap at my parent's house. amik barang sikit and mintak berkat. fetch a friend in gombak and off to sungai petani via PLUS. stop at tapah R&R, saw dunkin donuts (x dapat pau, donut pun jadik). prayers and all, hit the road straight - non stop. eh, we do stop in sungai perak R&R for petrol. had to use PETRONAS as there is no SHELL there. arrived in sungai petani somewhere around 10.30 pm. nak mencarik INTURA ni jadi satu hal pulak and we are racing the time. must reach there before 12 midnight. asked the locals for direction. got there, got the keys to the room from the guard. (yes, they allow you to arrive early). masuk bilik, freshen up. the room is totally nice. macam 3.5 star hotel la. a lucky friend of mine got the room at the top floor. this one comes complete with TV and minibar. we called the room "bilik penginapan JUSA" :lol:
tidur....
next morning, we woke up quite late. most of the participants have arrived. registered ourselves (konon nak dapat No 1, ambik No 112 :roll: ). after registeration, there was an english grammar test. coffee break and then straight to the opening briefing. after that, lunch was served. definitely, the food was great!
after that, at 2.30 pm psychology test. soalan agak kelakar dan mencabar. no 43: saya pernah kecewa dalam percintaan, no 112: saya sering memperkatakan tentang seks. what the...? ok, psychology test done. next was personality test. we concluded that the test was trying to show whether you are the authoritative type or the 'kaji sampai akar umbi' type. both were just our theories.
on the first night, latihan dalam kelas was held. the usual activities...we got the task to find out who drinks plain water and who owns the computer from a set of informations given to each members of the group. apa lagi ek...4 task all in all, 2 in malay, 2 in english. it was more to problem solving skills...
lupa lak, malam tu. gi TT kat nasmir sungai petani with a few friends. a few pun 3 kereta gak. nak buat networking business pun bagus time ni :D
1st day done...
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Kenalah u doakan for us to eventually secure the post, Rose :)
Heheh... kita memang pandai Rose. Baik kenakan Zaha sebelum dia cakap apa-apa :P
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ok, day two...
first activity was case study. solve each problem in groups for about 40 minutes each. as usual, one in malay and one in english. groups are changed from one activity to another. so, you'll meet new faces during each activities. maybe the participants before and after you (in sense of the registeration number) will stick with you on the same group.
after case study, there was a free hour cum research hour from 11 to 1 pm. this is when you prepared your text for pengucapan awamand public speaking which will be held soon after. sapa yang dah siap text awal-awal dari rumah boleh tidur. me? time tu laa nak surf internet and carik topic. last minute hey, got the topics on pemuliharaan hutan for malay and something about blogging culture for english. plagiarism is truly welcomed as long as you present it well. ehehehe :lol:
after lunch, at 2.30 pengucapan awam. in a group of around 20-25 people. you talk about your topic in front of strangers, for 5 minutes only. ok la yang ni. you can talk about anything as long as it doesn't touch the sensitive issues such racism, sex etc, you know the drill. petang, after asar at around 5.15...the most awaited activity. the 2.4km run!. mind set, have to be ego...my friend's idea. "jangan kasi pompuan potong..." the strategy went fine, managed to finish in 13 minutes and 18 seconds. oh ya, in INTURA the time was 14 minutes. trek terlebih jauh kut...beats me.
night activity...public speaking. same format as pengucapan awam but don't translate your pengucapan awam to english. you have to make two topics then.
after that, TT in nasmir again :lol:
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hah, pandai pun nak maximize 75 points. lepas ni, topik ni boleh la kita rename 'diari ptd'. for all you know, maybe nanti ada cerita cerita terlampau dari diari ni hehe.
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ok...day three...
final activity...parliamentiary debate. the group was split into two. one side the government the other the opposition. debate on the topics given.
after that, taklimat penutup was held before lunch.after lunch, semua pulang ke tempat asal :D
apart from going through all the assessment activities, try to have fun and makes new friends. these participants come from all walk of life. and please don't be like a friend of mine. nak ngurat sekali bini orang daa :lol:
the key is, enjoy and have fun but be serious during the activities. although we meet new friends, everyone has one same goal and agenda - to be successful. everybody is for himself/herself during the activities. enjoy the food, enjoy the luxurious room :wink:
i hope i've gave some insight, especially to those who are going to the PAC soon (read: cec).
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kenduri? insyaAllah..tengok dulu dapat ke idak..ye tak? ehehehe
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Zaha,
I can't thank you enough for sharing the experience you've endured. That reminds me to prepare the pengucapan awam and public speaking bits early.
And I'm gonna reverse your running tactic-never let the guys overtake me. Heheh! :P
Iye (about the kenduri thingy) :wink:
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Yelah, dah deman AF3 akan menjelang, ni kira Diari PTD sempena kursus PTD lah ni.
Skarang mungkin vanilla lagi, who knows bila Zaha dah jadi "somebody" dalam PTD ni, maybe the story will become raunchy dan terlampau.
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gaya dah ada dah tu.
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ehem, excuse me?
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Zaha,
tulis la kat sini pasal your joining the govt and leaving the SJHB :)
CONGRATS from me and Jalud :)
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haaa, don't get me wrong. PTD is still a long way to go (if dapat, that is). i'll be leaving SJHB and will be joining LMCB (rose boleh check counter 3794) come next monday.
anyway, thanks!
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hehe .. bole kuar buku pasal pengalaman/tips kursus PTD - kalau dah jadi 'somebody' kat PTD tu nnti mesti lagi laris ... n'way, all the best wishes utk ke tempat baru :)
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Zaha,
Congrats on your new post.
And the PTD Assessment was fun 8)
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Zaha,
Lafarge punya ofis kat mana? shares Satang dah jual? hehehe.. menyebok tak habis i ni..
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HQ kat uptown but i'll be posted in PJ in a subsidiary company of the group. shares satang tak jual lagi, my dad suruh hold...
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Zaha,
good for you :) all the BEST from me and Jalud :D
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thanks again :)
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hehe .. bole la buat kenduri kesyukuran / doa slamat ke .. ajak kitorang ni :)
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Congrats Zaha!
/ck & f
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Congrats Zaha!
If there's any IT server and storage requirements at Lafarge, you'd know who to call. ;)
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LaFarge Cement? Wah, boleh pegi Perancis tak Zaha? Oui, felicitacion!
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kalau ada chance pergi, semua tempat nak pegi :D
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so, camne?
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apa benda ni?
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Zaha aced the assesment and dapat pergi interview for PTD post.
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i think i'll be going for the interview. who knows what will happen then right?
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Yup, bro. Pergi, jangan tak pergi.
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laa, dah susah payah buat assessment, takkan tak pegi interview? it's the next logical step, so give it your best shot.
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and zaha, if you have the books suggested by Pengarah INTAN, boleh pinjam? :P
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Apparently, Cec's PTD interview will be on June 28.
Zaha, when is yours?