
SalamIf anyone is passing by KK during the school holidays, please drop by MCKK
and take a look at the renovation works being done to our Hargreaves Hall....JKR is supposed to install aircondintioning for the Hall but (presumably,
with some extra budget available) the architects have decided to change the
facade of our Hargreaves Hall to. we managed to peek into some of the
drawings on the plans this weekend. The contractors have removed the porch
roof and are in the process of installing 4 Roman pillars in front of the
Hall main entrance (this should be up by Tuesday or Wednesday next week).
Roman pillars with Art Deco architecture??? Must be the same guy who put
the pyramid dome on our New School clock tower. Could this be somebody's
idea of pseudo-post-impressionist art or just someone who wish to desecrate
the beauty of our school buildings? I cannot believe that the design could
have been done by a qualified architect.>:-oI have a bad feeling we are going to get a shock when the school re-opens.
Most of us are aware of the plans to install the aircond, but no one said
anything about redesigning the whole porch/entrance of Hargreaves Hall....And all this happen exactly 2 months after The YDP Agong delcared MCKK
as a National Heritage. What National Heritage? ;-)PS For those who drop by MCKK, please forward copies of any photos of the
works taking place to me for records.
PPS If anyone can get hold of a copy of the drawings from JKR Perak, so
much the better.--ak-
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Hopefully in this centenary year.... there won't be a sudden surge of old boys dropping like flies because of shock with all the renovation done ( like there is any other than this Hargreaves Hall "beautification")
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i think the worst of it is already over. think hassan hashim, ie koleq between the years 1993 to 1995.
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Come to think about it....... who can beat that waterfall (was it him that came out with this really brilliant idea) :roll:
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yup, that was him. don't forget the pink curtains as well.
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Roman pillars + Hargreaves Hall = ? ... if the works have already started, my only hope now is that it will look nice at the end
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well guys... i'd demolish it!!!! At first I was shocked to discover that the porch of HH had been torn down coz i thought that it had something to do with the new AC but I didn't take further notice until I discovered that they had dug big square holes up front at the edge of the quadrangle. Then alarm bells started to ring. So the next day, i walked up to the workers and asked to see the plan. They allowed me to... hmmm... lucky break. And POW!!! The drawings hit me like a brick from the sky! The porch will be replaced with a very graeco roman kampung melayu like porch! There will be six pillars to support this huge beast. And guess what? It's not necessary for the air cond! It's changed because ade architect JKR yang GATAL TANGAN and whose OTAK dah patut buang ke SUNGAI PERAK!! Well you see, the design will change the character of Hargreaves Hall and definitely will change the quadrangle's as well. I cannot understand why the architect just pasted a classical element onto a very well designed art deco 50's building. IT'S STUPIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish i could just shoot him in the hands so that he would find it difficult to design! HHHMPHHH.
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nul, buleh buat sketch lebih kurang of what will be the end product tak? susah aku nak visualize kan dalam kepala otak aku. thank you.
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Mat Daque,
I saw the plan because hasnul did scan or took a photo of the soon to be "greco roman-art deco" Bargreaves Ball porch blue print....... Like hasnul wrote, it looks like a kampung melayu porch where the owner just got his loan approved from BCB.
So Hasnul, could you please post the plan of the porch.....
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i've had people saying that if you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain.
i guess i'd choose not to be phylosophical this time. and here i share Nul's (and maybe many others') sentiment - PURE STUPIDITY, STUPID!!!
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Just to be sarcastic, I think the architect should incorporate the electric gates together, just like in the iklan BCB. And a chandelier inside the hall, just like the iklan BCB. Then we can all stare with our jaws wide open, and Yu Fang comes into the scene, saying "TAK PERCAYA KE?".
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Yang ni kita tak tau lagi..... tengok tengok "the candelier" dah already in their plan, cuma tak payah buat architecture drawing je.
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aha, then kichi can organize a ballroom dancing session for OBs there one fine day. what next? :shock:
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Err Kichi - I think you are being quite unfair to him. He came up with the idea to "beautify" the school - but that bloody beast was the "masterpiece" of Purushotanam, Hassan Hashim had little "creative" contribution in it.
Purushotanam however, being a senior teacher and quite popular with the boys (and old boys) escaped unharmed in the fiasco and it's always Pak Hassan who got the blame.
But that monster was Puru's, the flamingos was Pak Hassan's.
The square in the middle of F4 and F5 block was KPKM's, the little jakuzi near the library was Class of 95's, the pondok and clock garden depan Pavi was Gedebe's/Pak Hassan's.
Just to set the record right.
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panas betul isu ni, tapi agaknye what do the college admin think about it ... :?: hope they are not that cool with it.
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I do feel the current college admin does not care what ever renovation is done in college..... if there is a budget to put neon lights around the school..... they will gladly accept them. :roll:
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rough, thanks for the clarification, but unfortunately, everyone seems to think that hassan hashim is the man responsible for all of this hehe. unless you can do something like MIB, then it would take a humongous amount of effort to convince the old boys otherwise. i mean, even people like who were around during his time think that he's the one for ruining koleq.
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As far as I know hasnul is in kuala at the moment. Ishak ariffin did post something about hasnul's comment in the comnet...... it's just ugly.
Not sure if hasnul is going to take any pictures of the tragedy........ but I will if my plan to be in KK this weekend goes ahead.....
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dire news, indeed. macam the declaration (selagi ada peredaran bulan dan bintang di langit... ) never happened at all.
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Ohh well Kichi, that's so typical of our people (sigh). I would call it to a large extent escapism (melayu comes up with the phrase "mengkambing hitamkan") and can't help but wonder how it would have been received if it was done by an old boy (though many would point out to me that old boys wouldn't have done that in the first place).
Sometimes it's always easier to lump everything and pass the buck to someone not from our clan, even though he is only partly responsible for it.
Anyway, are u in KLCC? I am running out of lunch partners nowadays, give me a buzz if u r free.
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true, it's easier to just find a scapegoat, but in this case, we don't even know that there were other players (until you brought it up).
i'm not in klcc yet. still waiting for the letter, and was told that any transfers now have to go through holdings. dulu, it was just at the subsidiary level and that was enough.
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As promised as of yesterday, Sunday June 19, Hargreaves Hall looks like this......
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Rizal,
kalau macam ni progress work..siap ke b4 OBW? :x
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tu la kalau nak cepat sangat siap .. nanti roboh pula (is that good?) :wink:
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ahh.. hijaunya rumput kat Quadrangle.
Still can remember the nice smell of freshly-cut grass during Speech Day...
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urgh, even now, the pillars look so out of place with bargreaves. what's with all these roman pillars nowadays anyways?
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homesick ker ayul?
Below is HH initial design.. tapi tak cukup tiang.. hehe.. (taken from Caesar 3 game)
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hehe .. maybe takut tak cukup bajet bile banyak sangat tiang la tu.
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hmm, kalau buat ikut design tu, still tak kena jugak, because the rest of the buildings wouldn't match at all with hargreaves.
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bukan tak cukup budget, but more of poket nanti tak cukup tebal....... :lol:
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If I am not mistaken it is around 1955 or around that time.... sekali dengan new school.
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the whole set of buildings have the same look and feel to me. so memang built around the same time la kot.
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Changes in the school
1909 Big School
1913 Prep School
1950's New School Area
1960's Pavillion
1970's TAR Hall, New Hostel, Form 1 Block
1990's Waterfall
2000's Some new blocks in new school
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and now 2005 ... "roman"isation of HH :?
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Saw hasnul's photos of the renovation. from the inside you do feel that you are being cramped between the pillars......
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i'll be in taiping for 3 wks (until OBW+MCVC) starting this sunday, perhaps i'll pay koleq a visit one of the weekends and have a look at the renovation & romanisation progress.
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The expected handing over of this stupid project back to the school is July 21.......
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bro,
Couldnt agree with you more there. WTF!!!!!!! :twisted: Why not hand over now maybe we can still save the day!
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Kamal...... sorry to say can't be saved anymore..... we can only rectify after the most beautiful pillars in the world ni siap......
Another thing is kalau they can't deliver them by that date, we have to go for plan B for where your band is going to play....
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bro
if they cant deliver, i will personally castrate them :twisted: and as a penalty they have to construct a stage in front of big school for the thoroughbreds. What u think boleh ka? :wink:
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Kamal,
Ikut suka hang la. You kan band manager, kena la jaga kebajikan the band members..... tak kan nak tengok the groupies aka "kichi and gang" strutting kan kantin pulak :lol:
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it sounds that kalau the romans hidup lagi & dpt tengok pillars tu, maybe diorang pun geleng kepala agaknye..
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Zaid,
one thing the will ask is.... "how come is it square, shouldn't it be round?" :lol:
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kichi and gang = kichi and the leggy models.
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OK la kichi..... as of this moment, dream on....... kalau jambu-jambu koleq ada la :lol:
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talking about jambu :? ....can anyone clearly define the true meaning of it?
Kichi...what say you?? The definition should illustrate the perspectives of the person being jambu'ed and also the person menjambu'ed. :lol:
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hehe actually i have no idea whatsoever how a person is described as jambu la. masa kat koleq dulu, when a person was pointed out as jambu, i really couldn't see what it is that defined the person as a jambu. but i can say that this group of people were/are pleasant-looking la, at the very least.
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huish! awat cerita pasai jambu lak ni? karang ada bebudak yang bukak cerita 'hardcore' ni karang! bahaya...bahaya
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opeq mmg sensitif btol ngan cerita2 jambu.. tetiba jek dia muncul! haha.
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Opeq,
kau pergi la jaga binatang ternakan kau tu........ nanti kena penyakit lagi, kena bunuh lagi macam dulu.....
tak sangka towkay b.... pun ada main jambu, bila masa kau buat benda macam ni? masa angkat tong kat belakang dining hall ke? :lol:
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Anyway, the latest update I received just now, it seems that as expected the renovation is well behind time, there is a good chance it won't even be finish by the Hari Penyampaian Hadiah on August 6...... :roll:
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so bila siap? tahun depan? tapi..apa susah..ada letter of extension provided owner agrees.
kamal, band nak main kat mana? thoroughbred live from HH pun dah tak leh pakai nampak..
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apa lagi, main kat tar hall la hehe.
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We are still keeping our fingers cross that some miracle will happen (yeah, right)....... a few locations were suggested, but will only confirmed after the team look at the places.
And Kichi..... TAR Hall..... not big enough, unless for your strutting session :lol:
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hehe .. tak bole nk siap mungkin sebab renovation of HH tu trmasuk skali construction of roman pillars yg tak diperlukan .. patutnye concentrate je la at repairing the hall.
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Actually it was supposed to be just the air conditioning of the hall, tak tau la macam mana dia orang jumpa duit lebih, dia orang aka JKR decided to add the stupid roman pillars also.
Kalau ada duit lebih patutnya bagi je kat sekolah, tak la dia orang mintak MCOBA duit je everytime nak buat something :roll:
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Latest news about the "Roman Pillars", the Pengarah JKR Perak and maybe the HM kena pergi mengadap the Chairman of the BOG, Raja Nazrin, to answer to siapa yang pandai pandai keluarkan idea yang bernas ni.......
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Semalam, saya singgah Kuala on my way back to KL.(pasal ada business trip kat Penang)... so quite latest pics...
Messy semacam aje... ni alibaba ke?
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Hoi abu bila masa kau post gambar kecik gila........ lain kali buat la saiz macam gambar gajah masa CCD
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rizal, about time some sort of action was taken for this heinous act, although it is a little too late for that. i wonder why the plan wasn't discussed with the board of governors first, if it wasn't la. and from abu's pictures, memang nampak teruk, which is a gross understatement. dah la nampak the pillars are out of place, add to that the rubbish from this unnecessary construction, it's a recipe for disaster.
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Rizal: ha ha ha kalau nak tengok besar-besar better tengok live...jom pergi OBW!
kira nak jimat spacelah...
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all,
looking at the pics...it would seem that having the concert at the prep school field would pose a problem as well!
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waa... bad! bad! bad contractors, and architect! first the clock tower, now this. my guess is TAR hall could be 'their' next target.
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Heh.. sah2 tak sempat siap for OBW nih.. takde sapa2 teringin nak crash n burn the pillars ker? hehe..
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Emmmm.. When I ronda-ronda big school... then I saw some 15 ppl tengah discussing incl. the hm talking over the old swimming pool. Apa lagi nak buat kot...
Anyway, masa I duduk Vistana hotel kat Penang, se bas KSAH tidur hotel from itu pancaragam gp. Wah bestnye! masa sekolah pun dah dapat tidur hotel... Sikit punye best ke...
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i was once told that ade la sorang ahli PIBG yg cadangkan the old swimming pool tu dikambus je ... but doesnt it has its own historical value and is part of the institution yg dikatakan warisan bangsa & negara.
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if you ask me, i'd say that the old swimming pool is just an eyesore. but if we were to keep the pool, we should restore the cracked surface - with the same materials like the original. else if the architect uses the cheap cement, it would just be another eyesore - like the hargreaves hall roman pillars.
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bile dilihat dari dekat during obw hari tu, the pillars cant be called roman pillars - takde rupa/ciri roman langsung
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Yup, squarish and all, they ain't Romans. :) I supposed they are Roman pillars wannabe.
At least the square pillars would look slightly better than the round Roman pillars.
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Here's the latest pic courtesy of Azam Latiff Class of '77
He said that if the air-cond is not switched on, the condition inside would be very uncomfortable as there's restricted air flow.
Good bye Bargreaves Ball as we knew it ...
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bargreaves looks strange.
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Yea, it look strange...... nampak macam senget, must be because they have to move that little stage to be in the center to the quadrangle, which is not the center of the hall's "porch".
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duh... could anyone please enlighten me on Bargreaves Ball thingy? i remembered i found the word 'Bargreaves Ball' mentioned in Kamus Dewan back when i was in koleq. we all laughed and thought it was a typo. but now i kept seeing the same thing, why is that?
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bumbung buruk la..did MCOBA agrees with this?
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i say, cikun. macam mana boleh tak tau ni? it's so obvious la! i don't know if the original sign on the hall is still there but if you take a quick look, you might think that it's spelled as bargreaves ball, when it is actually hargreaves hall. the reason for this case of mistaken letters can be attributed simply to the fact that the fonts in use on the sign is of the gothic style. so, for most of us who aren't too conversant with fonts, the 'h' is often mistaken for a 'b'. you might want to download the font into your pc from this page. i think this is the closest approximation of the font on the sign at hargreaves hall, if not the exact one.
heh, teringat pulak trying to write out those gothic letters masa kecik kecik dulu.
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based on the pic taken by Azam Latiff Class of '77 , i think the sign board that u r referring to is still on the hall, taktau la kalau gothic sign tu pun kene renovate skali.
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kichi,
i noticed that. but i never thought the typo or misconception would be publicly accepted. so when do we call it Bargreaves Ball, and when do we address it as Hargreaves Hall? and who are the Bargreaves Ballerz? i thought i saw one t-shirt and there's a futsal team too.
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Cikun,
The Bargreaves Ballerz are those who have gone up the stage to perform for MCOBA concerts.
They are currently practicing for the upcoming MCOBA dinner in December.
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you can use either, cikun, although bargreaves is more tongue in cheek.
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semalam sat 17 sept, ade majlis bacaan yaasin & solat hajat utk PMR & SPM 2005 kat college. earlier that day telah diadekan AGM PIBG at the newly renovated HH..